Vista Simple file sharing problem

[gazoo]

I can get simple file sharing going on vista...however, as long as it's not in the program folder. I have a folder under C: called DVR where I put all the livetv and programs etc. That was no problem and it's working fine. When I try to share the GBpvr directory, it brings up advanced file sharing only like it's "protecting" me from doing something bad like simple file sharing. The share button is greyed out. This goes for anything under \Program Files but anything above that level is allowed to share.

How do I share my gbpvr directory with simple file sharing then?

[jusbo]

hey there gazoo!

Right click on the GBPVR folder and choose share...share will be grayed out, but click on Advanced Sharing check the box up top...and if you go into permissions you should have user: Everyone. And if that doesn't work then....check to see if windows can use symbolic links....I know linux can.

[wmguy]

I don't have any experience sharing files in Vista, but I know that Program Files is a protected location that generally requires everything to be done as Administrator.

For the software I develop we have moved all files which ever require user modification (Including through our applications) out of the Program Files folder for this reason. I believe that Vista goes so far as mirroring Program Files and other protected locations in a user-specific location...so that changes made by User1 will not be visible to User2.

[ShiningDragon]

You can make it, even within the Program Files Folder. ;-) My two Clients, which are connected via LAN to my Main PC can acess to GB-PVR as streamingclients, read the database and even program recordings (!) via Network.

The secret: Like you saw, the easy file sharing don't work on some folder of the windows partition. You have to configure the enhanced file sharing.

How did i realized this access?

• Everey PC has a Network Name (in my case: MC-PC01, SM-PC01, BA-PC01, SKU-NB01)
• MC-PC01 is my Main PC
• The Names SM-PC01, BA-PC01 & SKU-NB01 have on the Main PC password protected user accounts

With this preparation, the rest is very easy!

• Choose a folder of the windows partition (in your case "program files") and select the enhanced file sharing.
• If you have done this and shared the folder, just add the "user accounts" (the PC-Names) and give them the rights, they should have. If the PCs are not yours, than you shouldn't give full access. Change and read should be enough.

In normal condition this should do the trick.

[gazoo]

I just figured it out before reading the posts. I had to go into the security tab as well and add the 'everyone' user and give it permissions and then it worked. Not very cool how they made this so hard, but it's working so I won't have to worry about it now.

Thanks for the responses..

[mvallevand]

The big problem is the misunderstanding by so many. Program Files should not really contain user data, so using or sharing it shouldn't be easy. Vista is just trying to correct years of bad practice and I think it's about time.

Martin

[K.S.]

The big problem is the misunderstanding by so many. Program Files should not really contain user data, so using or sharing it shouldn't be easy. Vista is just trying to correct years of bad practice and I think it's about time.
Martin

yeah sure, you're right. i only have some critics about how/what they've done, some examples:
1. UAC: hate it or love it (i tend to the later, makes life easier as a nonadmin user, you get prompted to enter an password, likely you know you did something that needs that). either way, if software developers have to disable it for their app to run, it's either the software developer is not qualified to do his job, or if many/all software developers can't get out a specific behaviour, it's more likely m$ has done some overkill
2. just get a look at the local/roaming/roaming now dirs. wtf? who besides of somebody in the it is any longer able to maintain their machines? make a decent backup of the files & settings they realy care... the same with virtual store & any other annoyances they've integrated...

vista has made a big step up in complexity compared to xp. that step does not justify the security gained, the rest is just eye candy & user harassment

[Pob]

Having just installed Vista, and XP 32 and XP64, on a new system and installed the same drivers / decoders & GBPVR on all three, the thing that amazed me was how much more space Vista takes up. Both XP 32 & 64 use <5gb, but Vista takes an incredible 15gb! When you add to this how much more RAM Vista needs to run acceptably, it seems you're investing in hardware just to run the OS, which is daft! The questions is, what does the bloated OS offer to me, the user? I am struggling to find an answer to that - but I guess they will force us to use it by not supporting XP anymore. A Good example is DVAX2 acceleration, which is only acheivable using unofficial decoders in XP, and don't work in EVR. As far as I know, it would have been quite possible to get DX10, EVR and DVAX2 all working in XP - had they wanted to...

http://www.windowsvienna.com/

"In the past 20 years, the Microsoft Windows operating system has accumulated old code libraries that brought it to the size it has today, 2.5 GB and about 50 million lines of code (Windows Vista). These old code libraries consume resources and are often the targets of security exploits. The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna. Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows Vienna's engine."

[K.S.]

take a look at microsoft singularity

[ShiningDragon]

The best way to avoid such problems, is to start from scratch, which is close to what Microsoft plans to do with Windows Vienna. Windows Vienna will represent the start of a different generation of operating systems, bringing in new concepts and support for new types of hardware, along with a better security and a modular approach, which will allow future versions of Windows to be built more easily on Windows Vienna's engine."

It seems that this announcement ist History. One of the Microsoft developer has told in his BLOG, that Windows 7 (Vienna) will be based on Windows Vista. Also "only" an evolution of this big and fat Operating System.

I think that a complete new built OS from the scratch wouldn't workm because of all the work that is needed to reach current status.

Take a look to Linux. It's very modular builded, very much developer works on this system. But it have sometimes lags in modern functions. And if you compare the developingtime needed, than we can see that a complete new built is nearly impossible. Even for a giant like Microsoft.

I think Windows 7 will come in the year 2010 (because the Vista Support will end then).