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  pvrx2 reboots PC when tuned to local NBC affiliate
Posted by: Jon_J - 2009-04-30, 06:13 PM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (1)

I'm a newbie and have been reading and following instructions/wiki to setup GB-PVR
I use OTA antenna only, (no cable or dish).
There are no analog channels here anymore, so I only use the Digital side of my Hauppauge HVR 1600.

When watching live TV through the pvrx2 app, I "seem" to have no problems with most of the local TV channels except one so far.
If I tune this channel, it will play for a short time, then will freeze up my desktop PC. (mouse and keyboard froze up too).
It emits a stuttering sound like a diesel truck idling, then my Computer reboots itself.

I think this same situation has occurred when using WinTV-6 and/or WinTV-7

I have a Hauppauge HVR 1600 PCI card installed. This is the only add-on card in this computer.

My PC specs are as follows: (new computer as of last week)
Windows XP, service pak 3
Intel DG31PR desktop motherboard with Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 2.8GHz processor.
2GB 800MHz PC6400 RAM.
Onboard graphics - Intel GMA 3100, 128MB memory, Intel G33/G31 Express Chipset family.
2 SATA HDDs 160GB and 500GB

I'm attaching the log directory in a ZIP file. I'm not sure which logs need to be looked at, so I copied the \Program Files\Devnz\GBPVR\logs\ to my desktop and zipped it up.
EDIT: I forgot to mention, I'm using GB-PVR v 1.3.11

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  Video Compression Breakthrough discovered! (POLL)
Posted by: tvshowman - 2009-04-30, 04:22 PM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (8)

Now that I have everyones attention heh...

First I would like to say that I am shocked that not a single person has replied to my request for some 2 pass mencoder command line help after 59 views Sad
http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=41968

I suspect either people don't know much about FMP4 and Mencoder or people are much to busy to reply.

So I have decided to get more people hooked on the codec that I have been using for more than a year now.

To get you interested I have uploaded Video Samples of my compression tests using some of the popular formats that are being used by members of the board.

Many posts have hinted that it is better to buy larger hard drives rather than compress your video files... Well I have a few Huge hard drives and they get filled up rather quickly especially if you record the movie channels 24/7 so that you can watch whatever you want whenever you want. The problem is that Mpeg recorded files are huge and take up to much space for a single 2 hour movie. For me the file size for a typical movie is around 4 gigs using PVRX2's Medium encoding settings for my hauppage 500 card.

I had been searching a year ago for the ultimate conversion utility, script or auto program and man let me tell you that nothing compares to the FMP4 codec for sheer speed and thankfully it has an above average picture quality.

FMP4 is a Video format by FFmpeg and a description can be found at this wiki

After trying numerous frontends for FFmpeg.exe and Mencoder.exe and trying to read and learn about the command line scripts they used for various profiles. One conversion program used an FMP4 script that I stumbled upon and fell in love with the speed and was quite happy with the results. I then started experimenting with changing the values to the line to see what the heck it does. (I know nothing about video codes just a hobby)

So this is my current compression script that I auto convert all recording to.

Code:
mencoder.exe %1 -ovc lavc -oac mp3lame -lavcopts vcodec=mpeg4:vqscale=3:vqmin=2:vqmax=31:keyint=250:me_range=1000 -lameopts preset=standard -o "%~dp1%~n1.avi"
vqscale=3 - a lower value raises the video quality resulting in a higher file. higher number = smaller file and worsening video quality...

If you want to deinterlace the picture simply add
-vf pp=md

To rescale the video add:
-vf scale=624:352

To deinterlace and scale:
-vf pp=md,624:352

Now my findings....

Test rig Q6600 quad core XP 3 gigs ram

I recorded a 30 second commercial using Variable bitrate 3500 - 7200 @ 720x480

Filename-----------------------Resolution-------FPS_EST_Enc--------time2encode--------------Filesize----
seaworld.mpg-------------------720x480----------029.99fps-----------0:30.00s----------------16,625k
seaworld_xvid_720x480.avi------720X480----------023.82fps-----------0:24.12s----------------06,774k
seaworld_h264_720x480.avi-----720X480----------016.99fps-----------1:10.40s----------------07,471k
seaworld_fmp4_720x480.avi-----720X480----------105.00fps-----------0:08.75s----------------10,637k
seaworld_fmp4_624x352.avi-----624X352----------100.00fps-----------0:09.28s----------------07,303k
seaworld_fmp4_448x336.avi-----448X336----------119.00fps-----------0:07.92s----------------05,696k

By not resizing the movie resulted in a much larger file in my test however usually in a 2 hour movie the results were about 2 gigs and it is important to understand that the codec adjusts to the colors and movements in the movie so the file size will rise or lower depending on the content. More black like a talk show results in much smaller files.

Resizing to 624x352 resulted in file sizes similar to H264 and Xvid 2 pass encoding. I decided to even go even smaller to 448x336 and the files are way smaller and I was happy with the picture on my 42inch LCD TV @ 1920x1080 resolution. Its only TV and if I was to convert a DVD I would use something else. I am planning on getting HDTV cable and purchasing the HD-PVR at some point.

Note-
Encoding using h264 or Xvid requires much to much cpu horsepower and PVRX2 becomes much slower during encoding to those formats using my pvr rig which is a dual core with 2 gigs ram. once comskip kicked in you can firget about doing anything in pvrx2 until comskip finishes.

The FMP$ encoding is much less cpu intensive and on my dual core rig I see about 60 - 70fps encoding using mencoder. I am also able to encode 2 files at the same time with only a 10%fps loss and no sluggish in PVRX2.

On any given day my pvr is recording 2 shows at once while encoding 2 shows at once while I am watching a recorded show lol. Also I am able to download and load a huge tvguide.xml without problems.

So I want you to judge for yourself my findings so that you can determine if FMP4 encoding will be worth it to you if you are currently encoding to xvid or h264.

Please keep in mind that the encoding settings are only for standard tv and if you wanted to convert a DVD I would only recommend that you use the Xvid or H264 methods to obtain the highest quality video.

But if you don't care about an exact copy of your recordings and want to have the fastest encoding than you might want to try out FMP4...

Here are the Video examples...
52,613k
http://www.4shared.com/file/102625718/dd...sults.html

You can use Video Lan player to view the videos without having FMP$ installed on your computer.
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

If you want to view the videos in PVRX2 then you need to install FFDshow,
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_..._20081219_

WARNING #1 - The video will freeze PVRX2 sometimes using Windows XP SP2 and the only cure is to have SP3 installed and there is no work around. Installing SP3 and you will have no further issues.

WARNING #2 - FFDshow should be configured in your config.exe settings for PVRX2 and you must select the checkbox to use FFDshow always.
When playing the file in PVRX2 you may only see a black picture. You will need to configure PVRX2 to be in window mode so that you can view the FFDshow popup window and select always use FFDshow and stop bugging me option and then the files will always play. After that you can go back to the config.exe and select full screen exclusive again. I use Nvidia's MPEG decoders for best picture quality in PVRX2 however you can any decoder you have installed..

Use this version of Mencoder for the fastest encoding.
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles..._id=678601
Direct
http://sourceforge.net/project/downloadi...a=20200751

H264 encoding script used - (Post number Two) posted by sgilani
http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=40978

Xvid 2 pass script - (Post number 35) posted by BTJustice
http://forums.nextpvr.com/showthread.php?t=41060

If you took the time to view the Video examples please vote in the poll!

Have fun watching TV

Example
Late night with Jay Leno
Original Mpeg - 2,355 megs
using FMP4@448x336 - 578 megs

:thumbs up!:

If you are recording tv with a snowing picture you can forget about using this to convert as the files will be much bigger...
chit in chit out

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  Capture sources setup problem
Posted by: gruvinci - 2009-04-30, 08:12 AM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (8)

ok, here goes.

I've spent the last three nights reading FAQ's, forums, plodding along. I've gotten what I believe is tantalizingly close.

I will briefly describe what I've got and what's going on and wait for a more detailed request for information. Thanks in advance.

Windows machine running XP
Radeon Bravo 9600
SiliconDust HD Homerun
Comcast cable (QAM) feed
Schedules Direct EPG feed

The story so far:
-I have the HD Homerun setup (correctly, I believe) and am able to play the signal from my cable on my desktop with VLC.
-The HD Homerun setup went fairly painlessly.
-Spent a day trying to get GB-PVR running. Problem with my graphics card (I believe) Machine is about 5 years old. Fixed it with a Microsoft Net upgrade and several days of forum fishing.
-Was able to display PVRX2.
-Seemed to get EPG set up correctly.
-Was able to see TV Guide in PVRX2.
-Set up a recording.
-Folder was created, folder empty.
-Seems to me recording source was not setup correctly.
-more forum fishing.
-found this link: http://www.silicondust.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5449
-Seemed to work. Device now found in recording source.

-Problem: can no longer bring up TV Guide.
-Also, when I try to "Map digital channels to EPG Channels, this fails.
-Have played around with multiple configs.. no luck.
-Have decided to turn myself in here.
-Hope you feel I have made good faith effort before asking for help.

I see many times people are asked for log files to help diagnose. If this is true for me, please be specific (location and file name) as I have not been able to find FAQ telling what/where files are.

Thanks in advance. I'm not a tech genius but I'm not afraid to jump in. I think I'm close. Looking forward to 'A-ha!' moment.

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  Comskip ini for NZ?
Posted by: papapumpnz - 2009-04-30, 05:57 AM - Forum: General Discussion - No Replies

Hi,

Anyone have a good comskip ini that works with H.264? I've got the latest build with H.264 support but the default ini does not effectively pick up the ad breaks.

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  bug or known problem with HD-PVR
Posted by: dark_half - 2009-04-30, 12:34 AM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (3)

I am having an issue when using the HD-PVR and time shift mode. It will work on the initial channel but hangs on channel change. I have confirmed the resolution isn;t changing on the input and I am not using the Hauppauge blaster. After trying to change channels you can not watch anything until you restart the recording service.


I am seeing these errors in GBPVRRecordingService.exe.log


Quote:2009-04-29 18:02:02.575 VERBOSE [7] Temporary live TV filename: E:\GBPVR\LiveBuffer\NBC5 News at 6pm_1_20090429_18001830.mpg
2009-04-29 18:02:02.576 ERROR [7] Unexpected error: The method or operation is not implemented.
2009-04-29 18:02:02.577 ERROR [7] at GBPVR.Backend.Common.AnalogHighDefRecordingSource.startNewFile(String filename, ChannelTuning channelTuning)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.xacbaa848c6f2acce(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)

I am seeing these errors in the PVRX2.exe log
Quote:2009-04-29 18:02:02.583 ERROR [1] StartRecordingLiveTV() failed: System.Exception: The method or operation is not implemented.

Server stack trace:
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.AnalogHighDefRecordingSource.startNewFile(String filename, ChannelTuning channelTuning)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.xacbaa848c6f2acce(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.RecordingRemote.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink._PrivateProcessMessage(IntPtr md, Object[] args, Object server, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext, Object[]& outArgs)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink.PrivateProcessMessage(RuntimeMethodHandle md, Object[] args, Object server, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext, Object[]& outArgs)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink.SyncProcessMessage(IMessage msg, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext)

Exception rethrown at [0]:
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.IRecordingService.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.x396614b3dae3b1da.x06b549b1ade7b16c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x69d720e971206ea6, Programme& x5d1dc8495c0908a9)
2009-04-29 18:02:02.583 VERBOSE [1]
Server stack trace:
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.AnalogHighDefRecordingSource.startNewFile(String filename, ChannelTuning channelTuning)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.xacbaa848c6f2acce(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.x93f60a55016d55c4.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.RecordingService.RecordingRemote.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink._PrivateProcessMessage(IntPtr md, Object[] args, Object server, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext, Object[]& outArgs)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink.PrivateProcessMessage(RuntimeMethodHandle md, Object[] args, Object server, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext, Object[]& outArgs)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Messaging.StackBuilderSink.SyncProcessMessage(IMessage msg, Int32 methodPtr, Boolean fExecuteInContext)

Exception rethrown at [0]:
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.HandleReturnMessage(IMessage reqMsg, IMessage retMsg)
at System.Runtime.Remoting.Proxies.RealProxy.PrivateInvoke(MessageData& msgData, Int32 type)
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.IRecordingService.x394caf1b3184110c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x03f525c749695de4, Int32 x164f120fb8d3ddc7, String& x8b1d9e3189e6e73d, Int32& x73dd716c35ea457b)
at GBPVR.Backend.Common.x396614b3dae3b1da.x06b549b1ade7b16c(Int32 x70cd72e44179c0c2, Boolean x69d720e971206ea6, Programme& x5d1dc8495c0908a9)

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  ComSkip isn't happening
Posted by: mkenyon2 - 2009-04-30, 12:30 AM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (18)

My shows haven't had commercials skipped since February. Not sure why. What can I check in the logs?

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  Windows Server 2008 & HDHR
Posted by: ironcross - 2009-04-30, 12:09 AM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (3)

I am trying to get GBPVR up and running on a Server 2008 machine. I am using 1.3.11 with all updates. Server 2008 has all updates applied. I have followed the instructions for installing the BDA files from a Vista install and have installed Desktop Experience. I have ffdshow installed as well as CoreAVC. DirectX is installed as well.
I find no channels when I do a scan with GBPVR. If I use the tuning address found on my XP rig I get the message: "No signal detected. Please ensure that the antenna cable is connected or that the antenna signal is strong enough." I can tune the channels directly from the HDHR software. The following are the filters that show up in GraphStudio:

BDA Network Providers
Microsoft ATSC Network Provider
Microsoft DVBC Network Provider
Microsoft DVBS Network Provider
Microsoft DVBT Network Provider
Microsoft Network Provider

BDA Receiver Components
Silicondust HDHomerun Tuner xxxxxxxx-0
Silicondust HDHomerun Tuner xxxxxxxx-1

BDA Source Filters
Silicondust HDHomerun Tuner xxxxxxxx-0
Silicondust HDHomerun Tuner xxxxxxxx-1

BDA Transport Information Renderers
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter
MPEG-2 Sections and Tables

DirectShow Filters
BDA MPEG2 Transport Information Filter

I have GBPVR set up exactly like I do on my two XP rigs, that work. I have attached my logs as well. Can the HDHR work with GBPVR on Server 2008? Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

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  Missing one QAM channel
Posted by: arkennedy75 - 2009-04-29, 09:08 PM - Forum: GB-PVR Support (legacy) - Replies (1)

When searching QAM signals with my Hauppauge HVR-1250 (v1.34 latest driver), it doesn’t find 84-1. The card finds all other QAM stations except 84-1. I’ve scanned using WinTV v7 and GBPVR software, neither finds 84-1. My HDTV in the family room successfully finds 84-1.

I tried all nine combinations using the "QAM.ini manager" and none found 84-1.

I thought possibly signal strength could be an issue. I ran the main cable (no switches) straight to the HVR-1250 and still no 84-1.

I’m at a loss here, I know the signal is there (my HDTV is tuning to 84-1) but I can’t get the HVR-1250 to find the channel. Any suggestions? Thanks.

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  Treat HD recordings differently in processing autoconvert
Posted by: Elmo Putney - 2009-04-29, 08:46 PM - Forum: Wishlist - Replies (1)

I've mentioned this before, I'd like my HD channel recordings to ignore my autoconversion setings in the pocessing tab of config, and a step up from that would be for the HD channels to have their own autoconvert....please..pretty pretty please.

I can see 2 ways (in my rose tinted world) of doing this....

1/ have channel groups, group A get autoconverted group B (HD) dont...or get a different autoconvert. It would be up to the user to group the channels correctley.

2/ have some kind of interrogation of the recorded stream to determine if its HD, it could even be as simple as a mb/s limit over which it gets the HD treatment.......

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  Vista SP2
Posted by: Satori - 2009-04-29, 07:03 PM - Forum: General Discussion - Replies (5)

Anyone tried Vista SP2? Does it kill any functionality in a dedicated GBPVR HTPC?

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