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odd problem with decoders/remotes

 
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odd problem with decoders/remotes
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2007-08-27, 01:44 PM
Hello all,

I have a very weird problem, and I'm wondering if anyone has seen anything else like it.

Here's the background. I use my GBPVR system for digital OTA to capture ATSC in the USA. I use a DVico Lite card. I have a NVidia 6200 card, which works fine for HighDef output. I use winlirc and irex to capture signals from my IR remote and convert them to keypress events, and that all has worked fine. I was using NVidia PureVideo decoder with Overlay renderer.

Last week I upgraded from .99.x to 1.0.16 of GBPVR. As you all know, to use the new interface, I was forced to use VMR 9, which at first caused me problems with my decoder. A couple of support threads suggested I download and use the MPV decoder, and I did. They also suggested that I start the new executable with the -FSE flag, to force exclusive mode.

Yaaaay! That made everything (almost) look smooth and great, and better than using PureVideo with Overlay as I was previously.

The only problem is when I was watching a signal from a station that was broadcasting in 1080i. The deinterlacing to my progressive scan HD set was horrible. I messed around with the deinterlacing options of the MVP decoder, and nothing really gave me a great picture, until I tried the checkbox marked "Set interlaced flag in output." (Or something like that, I can't remember exactly what it said.) That now gave me beautiful output on the interlaced sources. Yaaaay! I'm guessing that checkbox made the decoder put something in the video stream to indicate to my TV to use its de-interlacer, or something like that. (???) Anyway, it looked great, whether the source was 720p or 1080i.

But, my last problem is this: With that flag on, AND watching a 1080i source program (either live or recorded), the remote barely works. It only gets maybe one of 10 or 20 remote keypresses. I initially tried everything, new batteries, putting the remote right up to the IR receiver, etc, but I figured that wasn't the problem when I unchecked the "Set interlaced flag in output", and then the problem went away and the remote worked fine again.

It only does that if that box is checked, AND the source is 1080i. If the source is 720p, then I still get good remote behavior. Interesting.

My only guess is that checking the box makes the CPU do too much work, and the winlirc or irex applications don't get enough access to the procesor. However, initial checking indicates there isn't much of a difference in CPU workload with that box checked or unchecked.

I've verified that the GBPVR app. has focus, so that's not the issue with keypress events getting there.

I've also verified that the keyboard works just fine when in this state, even when my remote's having problems, so the issue is definitely with my remote software, somehow.

Is there something I can do to try to give winlirc or irex a higher priority. Or perhaps should I switch to something like HIP?

Any thoughts?
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2007-08-27, 05:39 PM
try turning the interlaced flag off and setting gb 'encoder passthru' to 'none' and see if that looks ok...

or also try Dscaler decoder, it also has those switches and usually looks much better than MPV decoder..[smoother]
the interlaced flag isn't really good to use normally..it marks all as interlaced...and not everything is...[not dvd and tv movies]
Hardware: HDHR Prime, HDPVR 1212, Raspberry pi2, VFD display w/LCDSmartie
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2007-08-27, 05:51 PM
pBS,

thanks for both the tips.

You know, I'd never seen the encoder pass-through option for deinterlacing until now. That sounds like something I wish I'd seen a while ago. Will try when I get home.
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2007-08-27, 06:28 PM
usually setting the deinterlacing to 'none' in config just stops all deinterlacing, but if your tv can do it, it might be a better option...
i don't have a set that has deinterlacing so i can't test...


my experience is best with dscaler, set to all auto, with nv12 colorspace out..
it's only codec i can get truly smooth scrolling as good as tv..[besides Nvidia]
and if your set does it's own deinterlacing, set it to off with this setup..

the tv set deinterlacing should be the best quality of all if it works, like a set-top dvd player... but i'm not sure it works or what settings would let it happen...
usually just passing the video on untouched should do the trick..[none]
or weave deinterlace option in decoder...

find some nice hihgh action stuff with scrolling at bottom..i like Fox news channel or CNN etc for that...and try stuff...then test on as many types of media as you can when it looks ok...

and let us know how it turns out..Smile
Hardware: HDHR Prime, HDPVR 1212, Raspberry pi2, VFD display w/LCDSmartie
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2007-08-27, 06:38 PM
oh and the remote thing is probably the interlaced flag setting...it does use quite a bit more cpu than without...and winlirc is vey cpu sensitive..
weave may be a better choice for low cpu...
Hardware: HDHR Prime, HDPVR 1212, Raspberry pi2, VFD display w/LCDSmartie
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2007-08-28, 04:00 AM
well, that stunk.

Tried pretty much everything I could think of. Tried the different decoders and different interlaced settings. No matter what, without fail, if the video settings gave me great picture with both progressive and interlaced HD sources, then the remote wouldn't work well when watching interlaced HD.

It seems as though the problem is Winlirc. I'm currently using Winlirc with Irex, but I tried changing to use Winlirc with Hip. Had the same problem with that as well.

Bummer.

So, right now, my choices are:

1. Use a less than optimal video setting which results in crappy de-interlacing but a 100% functional remote.

or

2. Use an optimal video setting which results in great video, but a remote that doesn't work when I turn to a station or a recording that is in 1080i. (That should be easy to explain to my wife why the remote stops working if you're watching channel 11.)

I even tried running Winlirc with high priority, and tried running it as a service, but no solution.

Bummer.
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